Main problem of the monastery consists of that the monks are too young. By Dr. Wolfgang B. Lindemann.

(kreuz.net) in the year 2000 four Brazilian Benediktiner in the French Bellaigue populated a monastery.

The place is in central France, one autohour to the west of Vichy in the Auvergne.

The monks transferred a trainingstanding abbey in a dying region with large history.

The moved history of the monastery
The abbey Bellaigue - „beautiful water “- became in the 11. Century based. In the year 1137 the Cistercians still reformed the monastery during lifetimes of the medal founder Bernhard von Clairvaux († 1153).

To end 13. Jahrhundertes experienced the abbey Bellaigue a bloom with up to 150 monks.

The fall began with the plague and the hundred-year war between England and France. It was sealed by national interference.

Since 1515 the abbott no more, like the Benediktinerregel prescribes, selected of the monks, but particularly appointed by the king. The consequences were not missing.

In the revolution year 1791 the Jakobiner forbade the monastery life. The buildings were sold to the highest bidder. The church served as stable. The monastery property was dissipated, the monks was chased away.

It is missing at altars
But it goes now in the abbey Bellaigue again upward. At present 27 monks inhabit the old walls. Two further were dedicated this summer to priests. One must cultivate. It needs new cells for Postulanten and more place for guests.

It is missing particularly at altars. Becomes urgent
new high ages uses. Planned is also the building of 14 side altars for the private fairs of the monks.

The new monastery library is already finished.

Also the Kirchentüre should be worthy. Since the monks rise early - in the winter at 3.30 o'clock - and many hours in the ice-cold church pray, one would like to equip the place of worship with an under-floor heating.

That would be more pleasant also for the guests, who participate some days or weeks in the monastery life.


House instruction on Latin
The monks originate from many countries - Brazil, United States, France, Germany, Switzerland. Therefore theological instruction at the house school on Latin takes place - as it at the papal universities in Rome up to the seizure of power by the modernists was usual.

Although the priest monks talk about Bellaigue latin such as water, the silence does not only stand on the paper. The monks use their own sign language, with which they express simple contents.

The monastery flowers and prospers. Also the altgläubigen Benediktinerinnen of the monastery Notre Dame de Toute Confiance will move shortly in west France into the proximity of the abbey Bellaigue. One builds already at the buildings.

Likewise an establishment of daughter is planned in Germany in close proximity to Aachen. The buildings are already acquired. At this moment still no monks can be sent to Germany, because there are too few among them with eternal Gelübden.

Despite the indescribable bloom of the monastery there are also military courage drops.

Like that the Gründungsprior, cathedral Ange, is at present heavily at cancer gets sick. But it is encouraged by many letters.

Also the modernistic local bishops undertake everything, in order to suffocate the young Pflänzlein in the germ.

The communities in the surrounding field of the Piusbruderschaft do not by the way only have this problem. In the late 90's for example the altgläubige Benediktinerabtei Le Barroux, which is subordinate to the papal commission `Ecclesia Dei', in the Elsaß wanted to create a daughter monastery.

This plan was sabotaged nearly presently/immediately by the archbishop and priest advice of the Diözese Strasbourg, although the abbott at that time of the mother monastery, cathedral Gérard Calvet swore to, its conformity with Rome.

On the other hand the Straßburger priest advice still welcomed the by the state subsidized building of a large mosque in Strasbourg in the same week.

The mother monastery of Bellaigue is by the way the earlier Brazilian daughter monastery of Le Barroux.

Benedikt: @ Fabianus

Naja, why probably…

Fabianus: @Benedikt

Thanks! It surprised me much. The Reliquie lies in a small Nebenaltar. I cannot introduce myself, why in Bottrop such should lie. If it concerns a falsification, the question arises, from which reason one could be hinreißen in addition.

Benedikt: @ Fabianus

So far to me is never gives change Rome admits Reliquien of first order. Whenever in an old listing of such the speech is, the commentating historian proceeds from a falsification. There also the Hl. Pius X. a Roman city-holy is, can I with the Reliquienkästchen not explain itself.

ottaviani: @Gotthard

either they are malicious or stupid
I do not think first in the rite from 1962 exist konzelebration from there am their recommendation obviously maliciously ubnd show typical after council arene a character

aurelia: Oh here

was the topic abortion still not at all? Amazingly

Tridentinus: @Gotthard

At your reference concerning the altar the symbolism is correct. That means practically that the main altar of the church should be optically competitionless. Can be reached however, if the 14 side altars are accommodated really laterally, possibly in kleinenen chapels and not in the east choir of any side ships. The sakramentale Konzelebration by the way darkens the same symbolism, to which they refer with the altar applicable. Additionally still the hierarchy which is rooted in the sakramentalen Ordo (three speedness of the Ordo) illustrates ceremonies, which is quite given with the Levitenamt, successfully.

landorganist: more @ruhrgebietler

Some would be pleased surely, if you pull your way did! Thus, freshly up, up! Good journey!

more r.ruhrgebietler: @Gotthard - no notion??

I recommend seriously the Konzelebration in the office for convention!
There we can pull however gladly and blessed way that their recommendation is not relevant!

Marina: @sirilo

already in old Rome the thermal areas were well-known in the basement, which might come an under-floor heating probably next?

Rudolfus: @Sirilo/„under-floor heating with hl. Benedikt “

An under-floor heating is not mentioned in the Regula Sancti Benedicti, so that in addition, does not forbid.

Thus the decision lies with the abbott, who possesses a large authority.

Sirilo: Strictly according to the rule of the Hl. Benedikt?

The monks of Bellaigue obey - in such a way it means - strictly the rule of the Hl. Benedikt. I have the rule of the Hl. Benedikt examined and determined: an under-floor heating does not occur therein.

Does someone know a classical Benediktiner or Cistercian monastery with under-floor heating in the church?

God hard: Concerns have…

It is missing particularly at altars.
The altar is the center of the church… the symbol for Jesus Christ, to who by altar kiss and Inzens reference is proven.
The church necessarily only one center… this majority of altars darkens this symbolism crucially.
I recommend seriously the Konzelebration in the office for convention!

Fabianus: important question

in St.Ludgerus, Bottrop I did not find recently a small reliquary casket with bones of Pius X. the resident minister could me an explanation give, how these came into the municipality. The does the Holy See distribute trueless its Reliquien? It would interest me much, as this is to be explained „find “.

Frater my wheel: more @Ex-Bochumer

Have they under their Reliquien also one of hl. My wheel? Search already long one of my name patron.

ExBochumer †: If hl. Reliquien for future altars to be needed,

… you contact me. I have approximately 300 Reliquien here. Predominantly with Authentiken before the V2.

Wandregisel: Cross-wrongly

@Red: Pc. Bernhard was not the founder of the Ordo Cisterciensis!!!

This honour is given to Robert Robert von Molesme, who created the mother abbey of Citeaux. Depending upon aspect one would know also Stefan Harding, the author of the Charter Charitatis (the first medal statute), when founders of the Cistercians regard.

St Bernhard is „only “the most famous son of the medal and abbott of Clairvaux and evenly not the mother abbey of Clairvaux. It held thus officially still not once the total line medals.

From a tidy editorship I would have expected more!!
Above all, if the necessary information is available even with Wiki…

Fabianus: @landorganist

That can be good, Benedikt XVI. has, as far as I know, which papal seals exactly in the ring, which with its predecessor the case was not. The ring Benedikts is also substantially more remarkable and larger, than the small, simple and flat cross with JP II…

landorganist: Directly I my daily write limit achieved,

but nevertheless: The Hämmerchen was not no more used, I believes with JP I. no more already. With Paul VI. does not know ich's.

Again to the ring remainders: Perhaps for the ring of the successor are melted.

Fabianus: @landorganist

Power nothing. Thanks again. Do you know whether the use of the small Hämmerchens still took place at JP II.? , The others say the one no.

landorganist: Oh ha,

no notion!

Fabianus: @landorganist

Thanks for the info.! And which happens with the remainders of the Fischer ring?

landorganist: Yes, because

the deceased does not lose its papal and bischöfliche became. To that extent another ring is also given to it to the grave.
The Fischer ring was at the same time the seal of the Pope, which lost its validity with dessem death. Beside the signature mark of the respective Pope the Fischer ring shows hl. Petrus, in a boat, as it ejects the net.

Fabianus: A question

if I have, does not fit the topic, perhaps but there is an answer nevertheless.
After the death of the Pope its Fischer ring is destroyed. Regards one the aufgebahrten Popes sees one however that they carry still a ring. Is this another?

Melchisedech: The establishment of daughter…

… is not planned in close proximity to Trier.
The establishment is intended in the former monastery realm stone in Monschau, diocese Aachen. From Monschau into the bishop city Aachen there is 34 km.
The local authorities gave green light.

landorganist: „Seizure of power of the modernists “

Hears, hears! The mode of expression that lets rush-nicer again and again schmunzeln.

Now, if the monks renounce all modernistic Tant, you may do also without the nachkonziliare church heating. So you are not only to feel on the basis their Missale religiously, which it is called „“to be altgläubig, but also at the examinations of the body. Whom the gentleman loves, he punishes, if necessary also with frost boils. Perhaps the internal fire, which kindles itself, if the brothers on latin communicate hands, to hold in order to succumb the Unbilden stood and not to the worldly temptations.